Eugene Prewitt
- Introduction
- Who is Eugene Prewitt?
- Meaningful elements in symbolic dreams - The White Blanket
- Evidence from providence
- Inerrancy in Ernie's actions regarding the dreams
- Spirit-guided Bible study versus spiritual impressions
- How were prophets taught?
- Neglecting the scripture?
- Ernie has not repudiated the need for scriptural study
- Taking time to study and evaluate the messages
- What if?
- Careful students don’t make it?
- The sacred and the common
- Baking bread mixes sacred with common?
- Jesus doesn’t literally come to us
- Joe Crews not inspired?
- Talking to evil spirits
- All heaven watching
- Literal and symbolic
- Tithe
- Fanaticism
- Cannot accept dreams even if there is no error in them?
- Nit-picking
- Interrupting the dream
- Bible versions
- Flattery
- Witnesses
- Repentance
- Elijah's name
- Angels without titles
- Ellen White the prophet
- Without an intercessor
- The Herald's test
- Chapter conclusion
Introduction
In April 2008, Eugene Prewitt published a document entitled, “Regarding Dreams and Ernie Knoll.” His document has become the foundation for many of those who reject Ernie’s dreams. (See Appendix I) Most of his issues have been addressed in this chapter, but not all, due to its length. However, it is enough for one to come to a conclusion.
Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 8, pp. 300-301
In the golden censer of truth, as presented in Christ's teachings, we have that which will convict and convert souls. Present, in the simplicity of Christ, the truths that He came to this world to proclaim, and the power of your message will make itself felt. Do not present theories or tests that Christ has never mentioned and that have no foundation in the Bible. We have grand, solemn truths to present. "It is written" is the test that must be brought home to every soul. . . .
Let us go to the word of God for guidance. Let us seek for a "Thus saith the Lord." We have had enough of human methods.
The Desire of Ages, pp. 140-141
If Nathanael had trusted to the rabbis for guidance, he would never have found Jesus. It was by seeing and judging for himself that he became a disciple. So in the case of many today whom prejudice withholds from good. How different would be the result if they would "come and see"!
While they trust to the guidance of human authority, none will come to a saving knowledge of the truth. Like Nathanael, we need to study God's word for ourselves, and pray for the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit. He who saw Nathanael under the fig tree will see us in the secret place of prayer. Angels from the world of light are near to those who in humility seek for divine guidance.
Who is Eugene Prewitt?
Eugene Prewitt teaches various classes at Ouachita Hills College in Arkansas, mostly in the fields of history, Bible, and canvassing. He travels extensively, leading canvassing teams and lecturing at churches and youth conferences.
Meaningful elements in symbolic dreams - The White Blanket
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Here are a few differences that I notice between the two passages [Ernie’s dream of ‘The White Blanket’ and Daniel’s vision of the four beasts in Chapter 7]. In the second, Daniel 7:7, the beast represents a nation. This is explained a little later in that chapter. The strength of the beast represents the comparative strength of Rome to Greece and Persia. The iron in the teeth is a reference to the metal that enabled that nation to engulf other nations. The residue stamped represents the remnant – shown to be overcome by the same beast in Revelation 13. The word ‘diverse’ is a reference to a change from the continual pattern of nations to the papacy (we find that it is the ‘little horn’ later in the chapter that makes this beast ‘diverse.’ The ten horns represent ‘ten kings’ as we are told later in the chapter. In short, every element is significant. Every element is explained by scripture.
But I wonder about the mountain ridge (in the Sierras, we read earlier in the dream), the ‘one’ person with ‘myself,’ the leap, the ‘above,’ the ‘opening,’ the dry skin, the hissing, the teeth, the drool. These elements are not explained in Ernie’s dreams. Nor are they explained in scripture. Nor in the Testimonies. How do we know what they mean?”
God says:
1 Corinthians 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
Counsels to Parents, Teachers and Students, p. 437
There are veins of truth yet to be discovered, but spiritual things are spiritually discerned. One passage of Scripture will prove a key to unlock other passages, and in this way light is shed upon the hidden meaning of the word. By comparing different texts treating on the same subject, viewing their bearing on every side, the true meaning of the Scriptures will be made evident.
Interpretation of the dream
The Bible and Spirit of Prophecy are filled with symbolism that is not always easy to understand. In reference to “The White Blanket” dream, Ernie understood the meaning of the dream, but had chosen not to interpret it publicly, because he wanted others to understand it for themselves and know the joy that comes from that. However, for the sake of answering Mr. Prewitt, the interpretation follows.
This dream contains literal elements and symbolism. It represents God’s people who will flee to the mountains after the death decree. The creature that resembles a black panther represents Satan as depicted in 1 Peter 5:8. “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” He is depicted as an awful creature because he is so full of hate and wants to kill God’s people. When he knocks Ernie to the ground, it represents the suffering that Satan causes. However, because the timing in the dream refers to after the close of probation, God’s people will not be killed. They have remained faithful and Christ’s robe of righteousness (the white blanket) protects them. Christ will defeat Satan, as represented by the creature falling into the valley below. “And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.” Revelation 20:1-3.
Summation
Interpretations to prophetic symbols are not always provided in the immediate context. God expects us to search for its meaning by comparing scripture with scripture and asking for God’s guidance. For example, Ezekiel sees in his first vision four living creatures. “Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward. As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.” Ezekiel 1:9-10. The reader is left wondering what these creatures mean.
Also, is it not God’s prerogative to use a creature in a dream however He chooses? Where is the Bible verse that says all creatures in dreams given by God must represent nations? In 1 Peter 5:8, the lion does not symbolize a nation, but rather Satan, the one who says, “I hate you! I am going to kill you!” He is the one who hates God’s people more than any other people on this earth. We can praise God that His people cannot be killed after the close of probation.
Conclusion
If a person does not understand a dream, it does not mean it is not from God. According to Mr. Prewitt’s conclusion, we would have to throw out Daniel and Revelation in the Bible, because of the difficult symbolism.
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“The contrast between Daniel 7:7 and Ernie’s dream is not conclusive evidence against his inspiration. But it is a significant contrast to be kept in mind.”
Fact
Mr. Prewitt is correct that this point does not prove Ernie to be a false prophet.
Conclusion
If this point does not prove Ernie to be a false prophet, why does Mr. Prewitt raise it, and why does he say we should keep it in mind?
Evidence from providence
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“There are several times on the website when the word “providence” appears. These are cases, stories, of God’s guidance of Ernie or others. The “testimonies” section and the story of Ernie’s personal healing from colitis are both interesting.
“Do these indications of providence point to Ernie as an inspired individual? I am afraid that the fact that they are advertized on the website makes these providences point in the very opposite direction.
‘Let none cherish the idea that special providences or miraculous manifestations are to be the proof of the genuineness of their work or of the ideas they advocate. If we keep these things before the people, they will produce an evil effect, an unhealthful emotion. The genuine working of the Holy Spirit on human hearts is promised, to give efficiency through the Word. Christ has declared the Word to be spirit and life. "The earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of Jehovah, as the waters cover the sea" (Habakkuk 2:14, A.R.V.). {2SM 48.1}’ ”
Fact
Mr. Prewitt’s conclusion is based on a quotation by Ellen White and is taken out of context, as the following two paragraphs point out.
Selected Messages, Book 2, p. 48
Satan will work in a most subtle manner to introduce human inventions clothed with angel garments. But the light from the Word is shining amid the moral darkness; and the Bible will never be superseded by miraculous manifestations. The truth must be studied, it must be searched for as hidden treasure. Wonderful illuminations will not be given aside from the Word, or to take the place of it. Cling to the Word, receive the ingrafted Word, which will make men wise unto salvation. This is the meaning of the words of Christ in regard to eating His flesh and drinking His blood. And He says, "This is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent" (John 17:3).
We shall encounter false claims; false prophets will arise; there will be false dreams and false visions; but preach the Word, be not drawn away from the voice of God in His Word. Let nothing divert the mind. The wonderful, the marvelous, will be represented and presented. Through satanic delusions, wonderful miracles, the claims of human agents will be urged. Beware of all this.
God says:
The Great Controversy (1911), p. 521
In order to sustain erroneous doctrines or unchristian practices, some will seize upon passages of Scripture separated from the context, perhaps quoting half of a single verse as proving their point, when the remaining portion would show the meaning to be quite the opposite. With the cunning of the serpent they entrench themselves behind disconnected utterances construed to suit their carnal desires. Thus do many willfully pervert the word of God. Others, who have an active imagination, seize upon the figures and symbols of Holy Writ, interpret them to suit their fancy, with little regard to the testimony of Scripture as its own interpreter, and then they present their vagaries as the teachings of the Bible.
Another Fact
Ernie has never asked people to believe his dreams because of the miracles he has experienced. However, God often uses miracles to vindicate His messengers or simply just to encourage the messengers.
God says:
John 14:11
Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
Exodus 4:1-9
And Moses answered and said, But, behold, they will not believe me, nor hearken unto my voice: for they will say, The LORD hath not appeared unto thee. And the LORD said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod. And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it. And the LORD said unto Moses, Put forth thine hand, and take it by the tail. And he put forth his hand, and caught it, and it became a rod in his hand: That they may believe that the LORD God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee. And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow. And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his other flesh. And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe also these two signs, neither hearken unto thy voice, that thou shalt take of the water of the river, and pour it upon the dry land: and the water which thou takest out of the river shall become blood upon the dry land.
1 Kings 18:37-39
Hear me, O LORD, hear me, that this people may know that thou art the LORD God, and that thou hast turned their heart back again. Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench. And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, he is the God; the LORD, he is the God.
Selected Messages, Book 3, p. 38
Some of the instruction found in these pages was given under circumstances so remarkable as to evidence the wonder-working power of God in behalf of His truth. Sometimes while I was in vision, my friends would approach me, and exclaim, "Why, she does not breathe!" Placing a mirror before my lips, they found that no moisture gathered on the glass. It was while there was no sign of any breathing that I kept talking of the things that were being presented before me. These messages were thus given to substantiate the faith of all, that in these last days we might have confidence in the Spirit of Prophecy.
Life Sketches of Ellen G. White, p. 97
In November, 1846, I attended, with my husband, a meeting at Topsham, Maine, at which Elder Joseph Bates was present. He did not then fully believe that my visions were of God. That meeting was a season of much interest. The Spirit of God rested upon me; I was wrapped in a vision of God's glory, and for the first time had a view of other planets. After I came out of vision, I related what I had seen. Elder Bates then asked if I had studied astronomy. I told him I had no recollection of ever looking into an astronomy. Then he said, "This is of the Lord." His countenance shone with the light of heaven, and he exhorted the church with power.
Regarding his attitude toward the visions, Elder Bates made the following statement:
"Although I could see nothing in them that militated against the Word, yet I felt alarmed and tried exceedingly, and for a long time unwilling to believe that it was anything more than what was produced by a protracted debilitated state of her body.
"I therefore sought opportunities in the presence of others, when her mind seemed freed from excitement (out of meeting), to question and cross-question her, and her friends which accompanied her, especially her elder sister, to get if possible at the truth. During the number of visits she has made to New Bedford and Fairhaven since, while at our meetings, I have seen her in vision a number of times, and also in Topsham, Maine; and those who were present during some of those exciting scenes know well with what interest and intensity I listened to every word, and watched every move to detect deception or mesmeric influence. And I thank God for the opportunity I have had with others to witness these things. I can now confidently speak for myself. I believe the work is of God, and is given to comfort and strengthen His 'scattered, torn, and peeled people,' since the closing up of our work for the world in October, 1844."
Summation
God does use miracles to prove He has sent a messenger. God used special providences and miraculous manifestations to convince the early Adventists that He was speaking through Ellen White. At different times, He also used miracles to prove He was leading His prophets, such as Moses and Elijah.
Conclusion
Mr. Prewitt has twisted Ellen White’s writings to contradict her own experience. God used miracles on many occasions to help convince people that He was leading her. We are told not to place miracles above the word of God. Miracles do not prove inspiration. Neither Ernie or his dreams have stated or implied that providence or miracles prove inspiration. What does this tell us about Mr. Prewitt? Whose agenda is he trying to push?
Inerrancy in Ernie's actions regarding the dreams
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Ernie claims inspiration, not only for the dreams, but even for the way the website is designed. Quoting from one of the dreams:
“What Becky and I are doing with the ministry is exactly as He has planned. There is no error in anything we have done. These are messages that He has sent to His people. He is the author and inspiration of not only the dreams, but also the correspondence and the website. The 4 His People Ministry is very important.”
“This phrase, “no error in anything we have done” seems contrary to the spirit and tone of all that is written in the writings of apostles and prophets.”
Fact
“No error in anything we have done” answers the question Ernie asked as to the way he was promoting the dreams, such as the website, emails, etc. It was not saying that his personal life had no error.
From Ernie’s dream
Much to Do, October 21, 2007
“I am praying because I am distraught over people’s reactions to the dreams. I now sense that I should look up and I notice Jesus comes through the wall. He calls me by my heavenly name. There is a sense of seriousness. He now answers four questions that I have been praying about and have never spoken aloud. He answers each one specifically to what I asked Him.
Jesus answers one of the questions by the following.
--What Becky and I are doing with the ministry is exactly as He has planned.
--There is no error in anything we have done.
--These are messages that He has sent to His people. He is the author and inspiration of not only the dreams, but also the correspondence and the website. The 4 His People Ministry is very important.”
Summation
Because people were rejecting the dreams, God gave Ernie the dream for encouragement. To fully understand the situation, one would have to have been in Ernie’s position. If there are instances in the dreams, website, or correspondence that do not make sense, we must remember that God is in control. He allows things for our good, even though we do not understand it. We must go by the “weight of evidence.” God was not saying that everything Ernie and Becky did personally was correct, but that He was leading His ministry.
Conclusion
If the phrase “no error in anything we have done” is contrary to the spirit and tone of the New Testament writers, why didn’t Mr. Prewitt provide proof? Most of God’s prophets have had to deal with rejection and persecution. Ernie’s lot has been no different. This is why God encouraged him. As Ellen White looked back over her writings, she was convinced that there was no heretical sentence therein.
Selected Messages, Book 3, p. 52
I am now looking over my diaries and copies of letters written for several years back. . . . I have the most precious matter to reproduce and place before the people in testimony form. While I am able to do this work, the people must have things to revive past history, that they may see that there is one straight chain of truth, without one heretical sentence, in that which I have written. This, I am instructed, is to be a living letter to all in regard to my faith.--Letter 329a, 1905.
Spirit-guided Bible study versus spiritual impressions
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Now consider one of the most significant troubles I find in the dreams. Ernie and his believers are led to expect guidance and answers from the Holy Spirit and from angels and from dreams. And where they might be directed to do earnest Bible study or searching of the Testimonies, they are rather directed to seek direction from a more direct communication from heaven. This is sometimes subtle, yet pervasive throughout.
Here is the crux of the matter: Satan fears the effect of earnest Bible study. He has always been gratified if he could lead men to seek for impressions of the “Holy Spirit.” Ellen White never cooperated with this hellish aim. Her warnings are filled with calls to earnest Spirit-powered Bible searching.”
Fact
Ernie has never promoted the idea of discarding the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy for more direct communication from heaven. On the other hand, how can Mr. Prewitt dismiss the work of the Holy Spirit, angels, dreams, and direct communication from heaven? The Bible and Spirit of Prophecy are full of those subjects. Examples include the following: The Holy Spirit inspired the Bible authors and Ellen White. Angels come from heaven to earth to give direct aid to mankind, as mentioned in God’s Word. Dreams have been given since Bible times to guide God’s people. An example of direct communication from heaven would include the giving of the Ten Commandments from Mt. Sinai. Perhaps the reason individuals in recent history have not received direct communication as in times past is due to a lack of true faith and godliness.
From Ernie’s dreams
Angel on a White Horse, April 28, 2007
He stops and I ask if my wife and I are correct in the way we are sharing the dreams. The angel responds that we are to continue sharing the dreams in the manner that we have been, especially in sharing the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy.
The Mailroom, July 27, 2007
In my dream, I find myself standing in what looks like a very large mailroom. I see many people stuffing envelopes while sitting at tables. I look more closely to see them put into an envelope a Bible and a book labeled, Spirit of Prophecy. (I knew this to represent all the Spirit of Prophecy books by Ellen G. White.) Also included is a large blue piece of paper that says, “Are you ready? JESUS IS COMING.”
If You Love Me, September 4, 2007
The light comes down brightly on him, and his hair also seems to catch on fire. He drops his mop and broom. Now he is holding a Bible and a Spirit of Prophecy book. His back straightens up and he leaves the room. Many surround him, and he starts sharing things from the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy.
The ABC, October 24, 2007
The Herald and I return to the inside of the store where we notice the SDA man in one of the aisles. He is on his knees cleaning and dusting books. As I get closer I notice it is the area where the Spirit of Prophecy books are kept. He lovingly takes each book off the shelf, removes its old yellowed wrapper and places it back on the shelf. Now the angels place many different Spirit of Prophecy books on the now empty shelves.
My angel and I go to the area where the Bibles are and now see only the King James Version. The angels are hanging banners. One is titled “Study as if it was your final.” Another has “Are you looking for answers?” The last one reads “He is the Word, the Author, the Truth, the Way.
The Work Now Begins, December 14, 2007
When you have read these messages [refers to another individual’s dreams] did you see any ‘nail holes’? If you did, then did you not question? Have you not been instructed to test all dreams against the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy?”
Stand Fast, February 5, 2008
The large words “HOLY BIBLE” glisten in gold, and below it are the smaller words “King James Version.” The Bible opens to Exodus 20. The screen changes as the words spelling the law of God become bold, clear, and very easy to read. The Herald says, "God Himself wrote this, and it is very important.”
Love and Rebuke, April 12, 2008
You were told if they do not understand you were to ONLY tell them to take their questions to the One who holds the keys to the Great Storehouse. You were wrong in what you did in sharing your studies. How can others learn and depend on God if you do the studying for them? How can they learn to have a close relationship to the Father if you don’t allow them to pray? Each must take their questions and reservations to the Creator. Each must learn to stand by themselves before the Father.
Testing the Spirits, May 12, 2008
My people need to understand that each must study and know who I am and listen to My voice. They need to understand that it is important to test the spirits. . . . Each has to study to know how to test the spirits. Each has to look for themselves whom I have sent.
Testing the Spirits, May 12, 2008
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20.
Testing the Spirits, May 12, 2008
The Great Controversy (1911), Introduction, vii
The Spirit was not given – nor can it ever be bestowed – to supersede the Bible; for the Scriptures explicitly state that the word of God is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested.
Testing the Spirits, May 12, 2008
Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 17, pp. 25-29
My brethren and sisters, leave all minor tests that you may be tempted to make, and test your spirit by the witness of the Word of God. Study that Word, that you may know the character and will of God. It is positively essential that every believer make the truths of the Bible his guide and safeguard. To every young man and woman, and to those of advanced years, I testify that the study of the Word is the only safeguard for the soul who would remain steadfast unto the end.
In His Time, July 12, 2008
In my dream, I am sitting on a hillside with my back against a tree. In one hand I hold my Bible and in the other hand the book, The Great Controversy.
In His Time, July 12, 2008
Jesus turns to me and explains that many who have said wrongs against me are not what people think they are. Many people would rather listen to others than to study to know God’s voice.
Summation
Throughout Ernie’s dreams, there is a constant call for God’s people to study the Word of God rather than just listen to what others say.
Conclusion
Mr. Prewitt’s argument that Ernie somehow promotes the idea that we can discard the Bible and rely upon a more direct communication from heaven is not true. Ernie’s dreams teach that God wants us to study both the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy, both of which are highly regarded in the dreams.
How were prophets taught?
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“When Ernie made reference to his lack of breadth in knowledge he could have been directed by the angel in the same way that Godly men have always been directed. The “many ways” is not the way they have been directed to supplement their lack of Biblical breadth.”
Fact
God has many ways of teaching His prophets.
God says:
Manuscript Releases, Vol. 21, p. 446
During the night season I was specially moved upon by Spirit of God. My soul had been drawn out in earnest supplication to God. I was distressed on account of the backsliding of His people. While lying in bed, unable to sleep because of the burden resting upon me, I was pleading with the Lord. I fell asleep, and in the night season I was taught of God. My guide said, "I have a work for you to do. You must speak the words given you by the Lord.
The Acts of the Apostles, p. 469
The apostle Paul early in his Christian experience was given special opportunities to learn the will of God concerning the followers of Jesus. He was "caught up to the third heaven," "into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter." He himself acknowledged that many "visions and revelations" had been given him "of the Lord." His understanding of the principles of gospel truth was equal to that of "the very chiefest apostles." 2 Corinthians 12:2, 4, 1, 11. He had a clear, full comprehension of "the breadth, and length, and depth, and height" of "the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge." Ephesians 3:18, 19.
Paul could not tell all that he had seen in vision; for among his hearers were some who would have misapplied his words. But that which was revealed to him enabled him to labor as a leader and a wise teacher, and also molded the messages that he in later years sent to the churches. The impression that he received when in vision was ever with him, enabling him to give a correct representation of Christian character.
S.D.A. Bible Commentary, Vol. 6, p. 1106
Through Paul God has given many wonderful lessons for our instruction. In his visions Paul saw many things not lawful for a man to utter. But many other things which he saw in the heavenly courts were woven into his teachings. The truth flashed from his lips as a sharp, two-edged sword. The impressions made upon his mind by the Holy Spirit were strong and vivid, and they were presented to the people in a way that no one else could present them. Paul spoke in the demonstration of the Spirit and with power (Letter 105, 1901).
S.D.A. Bible Commentary, Vol. 6, p. 1107
Mysteries which had been hidden for ages were revealed to him [Paul], and as much as he could bear of the workings of God, and of His dealings with human minds, was made known. The Lord told Paul that he must preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ. Light was to be given to the Gentiles. This is a mystery which had been hidden for ages (ST Jan. 30, 1912).
The Acts of the Apostles, p. 302
Paul was an inspired apostle. The truths he taught to others he had received "by revelation . . . .
John 16:13-14
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
1 Corinthians 2:10
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Steps to Christ, p. 87, 93
God speaks to us through His providential workings and through the influence of His Spirit upon the heart. In our circumstances and surroundings, in the changes daily taking place around us, we may find precious lessons if our hearts are but open to discern them… God speaks to us in His word. Here we have in clearer lines the revelation of His character, of His dealings with men, and the great work of redemption… Through nature and revelation, through His providence, and by the influence of His Spirit, God speaks to us.
Summation
As one can see from the above quotes, among many others, Ellen White and the apostle Paul were taught by divine revelation—whether it is through dreams or visions, angels or the Holy Spirit. God also teaches through providence, our circumstances and surroundings, and through nature.
Conclusion
Mr. Prewitt needs to be taught that, clearly, God’s words come directly through divine revelation. How can it be otherwise? Where did Moses get his information for the books that he wrote? Inspiration says, “Heavenly angels shed their light around him. Here, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, he wrote the book of Genesis.” Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 251. As one can plainly see, Ernie’s dreams do stress Bible study.
Neglecting the scripture?
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Of course, what the ‘angel’ says is true. God has many means of teaching. But that is not a truth intended to comfort persons who are neglecting to become giants in their knowledge of scripture. Even honored prophets are expected to study diligently (Daniel 9:1-5). Even Jesus was a diligent student of the scriptures.”
Fact
Ernie never stated he neglects the Scriptures. Let us also remember that not all minds are alike. Some comprehend more; others comprehend less. It is more important to follow what you know than to be a “giant” in Scripture knowledge but not follow it.
God says:
The Desire of Ages, p. 78
In this visit to Jerusalem, the parents of Jesus wished to bring Him in connection with the great teachers in Israel. While He was obedient in every particular to the word of God, He did not conform to the rabbinical rites and usages. Joseph and Mary hoped that He might be led to reverence the learned rabbis, and give more diligent heed to their requirements. But Jesus in the temple had been taught by God. That which He had received, He began at once to impart.
Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Manuscript Releases, Vol. 5, p. 294
In the last vision given me, which was on December 10, 1871, I was shown the condition of God's people. They are not awake and showing their faith by their works. I was pointed to ancient Israel. They had great light and exalted privileges, yet they did not live up to the light or appreciate their privileges, and their light became darkness, and they walked in the light of their own eyes instead of the counsel of God. The people of God in these last days are following the example of ancient Israel.--Letter 1a, 1872, p. 1. (To Brother Lay, January 11, 1872.)
Conclusion
Mr. Prewitt makes his readers think that Ernie has discarded his Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy and only listens to what he is taught in his dreams. That is like interpreting a Bible text in such a way that it introduces one's own ideas. The context of the dream shows however that 1) Ernie does not feel important enough for the calling, 2) Ernie hopes that God will remove the calling from him and give it to someone else who he feels is more knowledgeable in the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy, 3) Ernie feels he is not suited to the task. The angel’s answer shows that 1) Ernie has a broader understanding of the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy than he thinks, 2) Ernie does not have to be ordained of men to be ordained of God, 3) God can teach Ernie in many different ways. When read without biased thoughts, this does not mean that Ernie has discarded his Bible.
Ernie has not repudiated the need for scriptural study
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Some fanatics in the past have repudiated the need for scriptural study. Ernie has not done this. But a more subtle error is not a safer one. Notice the effect of the former fanaticism and beware of any milder version that points in the same general direction.”
Confusion
Psalm 35:26
Let them be ashamed and brought to confusion together that rejoice at mine hurt: let them be clothed with shame and dishonour that magnify themselves against me.
Conclusion
Mr. Prewitt spends time building up an argument to reject Ernie’s dreams, then at the conclusion of it, he admits that Ernie does not fulfill that argument. Mr. Prewitt is causing confusion.
Taking time to study and evaluate the messages
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“I have hesitated to say plainly that Ernie is a false prophet. That is because I remember that Ellen White counseled us to take our time in evaluating persons claiming inspiration. We are to give them time to develop their fruits. We must not be urged into accepting or rejecting their messages. False prophets may initially appear true. True prophets may appear false because of my misunderstanding of scripture. I must take time.”
Fact
At the time when Mr. Prewitt had written his document, it had been almost a year and a half since Ernie received his third dream where he was told to share it with God’s people. By that time, Ernie had 29 published dreams.
God says:
Jonah 3:4-5
And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
Christian Experience and Teachings of Ellen G. White, p. 61
After I came out of vision, everything seemed changed; a gloom was spread over all that I beheld. Oh, how dark this world looked to me! I wept when I found myself here, and felt homesick. I had seen a better world, and it had spoiled this for me.
I related this vision to the believers in Portland, who had full confidence that it was from God. They all believed that God had chosen this way, after the great disappointment in October, to comfort and strengthen His people.
1 Thessalonians 5:20-21
Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
The Faith I Live By, p. 296
Let the Testimonies be judged by their fruits. What is the spirit of their teaching? What has been the result of their influence? “All who desire to do so can acquaint themselves with the fruits of these visions.
Summation
The people of Nineveh didn’t waste time accepting Jonah as a prophet. Their life depended upon it. After Ellen White shared her first vision, the people did not wait for years before they accepted it. Immediately they had full confidence it was from God.
Conclusion
If we follow Mr. Prewitt’s counsel, we will never make a decision regarding the dreams, but the thought will always be there that given a little more time, Ernie may just prove he is a true prophet or a false prophet. Ellen White stated that God’s messages produce good fruit. Since Ernie had 29 dreams by the time Mr. Prewitt wrote his document, isn’t that enough to test him by? Can anyone say that after reading Ernie’s dreams they were led away from God? On the contrary, many people are being drawn closer to God.
What if?
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“A friend of mine raised some valid questions regarding the ‘what if’ ending of the dream. But my friend noted that Jesus had promised Eve that of her seed he would raise a Deliverer. Enoch was already in heaven. Would God’s promise to Eve fail?”
Fact
Mr. Prewitt’s statement refers to the “Build an Ark” dream of July 3, 2007. The “what if” scenario at the end of the dream is only given to teach the danger of rejecting messages God has been giving His people.
God says:
1 Corinthians 15:13-19
“But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.”
The Signs of the Times, May 10, 1899
For a period of time Christ was on probation. He took humanity on Himself, to stand the test and trial which the first Adam failed to endure. Had He failed in His test and trial, He would have been disobedient to the voice of God, and the world would have been lost.
Luke 16:19-26
There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
(When Jesus told this story of the rich man and Lazarus, He used pagan concepts of death and hell to illustrate a truth. We know from a study of the Bible that the story should not be taken literally, even though most of the Christian world does.)
Summation
Although we know Jesus did not fail his earthly mission, we can’t help but wonder what would have happened if He did. Ellen White says the “world would have been lost” and Paul says everyone who has died have perished. If Jesus had failed, we would make the same statements Mr. Prewitt has stated: "Enoch was already in heaven. Would God’s promise to Eve fail?”
Conclusion
Jesus didn’t fail His mission, and Noah didn’t listen to the critics of his day. Ernie’s dream is not be taken literally. It teaches us the danger of listening to the “great educators” and rejecting God’s warnings.
Careful students don’t make it?
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“This sounds much like sophistry. It sounds like the same innuendo found in the vision of the ascending birds. There one bird in 800 make it. Escaping the valley is an illustration of salvation in the bird dream. I am not confident that the ratio, 1 in 800, is a poor one. But there the one bird that makes it is the one that flies straight up. What about the birds that pause to do diligent study? They are pictured also. It is not clear what ‘ancient’ writings they are studying. But one thing is clear. The careful students don’t make it.”
Ernie’s dream says:
Get Ready, March 18, 2008
I watch as others stop to discuss the ancient books of the best ways to fly. They get out charts to plot and study the wind currents and try to figure out what is the best way to ascend.
Fact
Ernie’s dream does not condemn the careful Bible student, but rather it condemns those who are trying to get to heaven their own way. If Mr. Prewitt had taken the time to read the footnote (number 9) he would have understood the meaning. The footnote states, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.” John 10:1. The “charts” represent false doctrines and trivial subjects that are harmful or not important to our salvation, such as keeping the Jewish feast days and denying the Holy Spirit as a person.
Conclusion
It is obvious Mr. Prewitt has not approached Ernie’s dreams with an open mind. In an attempt to prove the dreams questionable, Mr. Prewitt takes Ellen White’s writings out of context. He continues to mention about Ernie discarding the Bible and then admits Ernie really hasn’t discarded the Bible. Mr. Prewitt misrepresents the plain meaning of the dreams.
The sacred and the common
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Another warning Ellen White gave about false messengers is that they might mingle the solemn and the silly, the holy and the common. God has always worked to keep these distinct. Satan has always sought to confound them...This mingling of the common and sacred, of the ‘sublime and the ridiculous’ (2SM 89), caught my attention several times while reading the dreams of Mr. Knoll. As a minor example, he repeatedly mentions the ‘dimples’ of the ‘Herald.’ ”
God says:
Selected Messages, Book 1, p. 65
In this quotation are also found the words, "I saw two long golden rods on which hung silver wires, and on the wires were glorious grapes."
My opponents ridicule "that weak and childish expression of glorious grapes growing on silver wires, and these wires attached to golden rods."
What motive impelled the writer of the above to misstate my words? I do not state that grapes were growing on silver wires. That which I beheld is described as it appeared to me. It is not to be supposed that grapes were attached to silver wires or golden rods, but that such was the appearance presented. Similar expressions are daily employed by every person in ordinary conversation. When we speak of golden fruit, we are not understood as declaring that the fruit is composed of that precious metal, but simply that it has the appearance of gold. The same rule applied to my words removes all excuse for misapprehension.
Revelation 1:13-16
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
Early Writings, p. 15
His hair was white and curly and lay on His shoulders; and upon His head were many crowns. His feet had the appearance of fire; in His right hand was a sharp sickle; in His left, a silver trumpet. His eyes were as a flame of fire, which searched His children through and through. Then all faces gathered paleness, and those that God had rejected gathered blackness.
Fact
Since God created dimples, why would Mr. Prewitt accuse this of mixing the sacred and the common? Ernie is simply giving a description of the Herald. He noticed that no two angels looked identical.
Summation
In reference to the above quotes, was it wrong for John the Revelator and Ellen White to give the details they did? It is these details that help us visualize what was seen in a dream or vision.
Conclusion
Ellen White’s critics accused her of describing childish expressions. This is very similar to Mr. Prewitt’s accusation that Ernie mixes the common with the sacred. Has anything changed?
Baking bread mixes sacred with common?
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“But when I read his sublime illustration of how God will prepare persons for the end (it is illustrated by the process of baking bread), I was surprised to read the Herald speaking regarding a symbolic bakery baking symbolic bread:
He looks at me, smiles, and replies, ‘It smells good in here, doesn’t it?’
Humor forms no part of angelic communications to men. Much less would an angel distract a man from a solemn spiritual lesson by a reference to a trivial passing aroma.”
Fact
In the dream “If You Love Me,” the illustration of making bread was the Herald’s answer to Ernie’s question of when a certain event would happen. The Herald was not to give a specific date. The event refers to the latter rain, which will come when God’s people are ready—just as when the bread was finished baking and sliced, it was ready to be eaten. When God’s people are ready for the latter rain, they will be sharing the “bread of life” as never before. If Mr. Prewitt had read the footnote provided in the dream, he would have read: “For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread” (1 Corinthians 10:17.) “For we are unto God a sweet savor of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish” (2 Corinthians 2:15.) Notice that the word “savor” means the taste or smell of something.
The angel’s comment about the aroma of the baking bread was not made as a humorous comment. It was to show how wonderful it will be when God’s people finally do experience the latter rain. His people must be “baked” in the “fires of affliction—“gold tried in the fire.” Notice the same type of illustrations in Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 4, p. 85: “The purification of the people of God cannot be accomplished without their suffering. God permits the fires of affliction to consume the dross, to separate the worthless from the valuable, that the pure metal may shine forth. He passes us from one fire to another, testing our true worth. If we cannot bear these trials, what will we do in the time of trouble?” From Revelation 3:18: “I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.”
God says:
Counsels to Parents, Teachers, and Students, p. 140
Jesus taught by illustrations and parables drawn from nature and from the familiar events of everyday life. . . . In this way He associated natural things with spiritual, linking the things of nature and the life experience of His hearers with the sublime truths of the written word. And whenever afterward their eyes rested on the objects with which He has associated eternal truth, His lessons were repeated.
Summation
Jesus used every day examples to teach spiritual truths. Likewise, Ernie’s dream showed a symbolic bakery to illustrate the process of a Christian growing up into Christ. This is something the angels in heaven rejoice over. Contrary to what Mr. Prewitt stated, the illustration of the bakery is not a mixing of the sacred and common any more than were Christ’s object lessons as taught in the Bible.
Conclusion
The bakery symbolizes the process of Christian character formation. There is much to forming character, as there is much to making bread.
Jesus doesn’t literally come to us
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Another point that strikes me with force relates to one of the most crucial issues in our church today. The question is the nature of inspiration. One of Ernie’s dreams shows Jesus inspiring Ellen White by kneeling ‘on one knee’ next to her.
‘I see Ellen White sitting in a chair with a pen in her hand. It is early in the morning and all is quiet. She is surrounded by many, many, many angels. Jesus kneels on one knee next to her and is instructing her what to write.’
Whether Jesus literally comes to earth (rather than being here by His Holy Spirit, while abiding physically in the heavenly sanctuary), is a question the careful student would want to consider.”
God says:
Matthew 18:20
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Matthew 28:20
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
John 14:16-18
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
John 14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
Fact
In Ernie’s dream “Testing the Spirits,” when he saw the Holy Spirit, he also saw Jesus. Jesus can minister in the heavenly sanctuary and still come to us, not physically but through His Holy Spirit as noted below in the dream. Careful students will discover truth when Jesus and the Holy Spirit are with them or in them.
Ernie’s dream says:
Testing the Spirits, May 12, 2008
Before I can ask Him my first question, He begins answering it. “You are thinking how is it that I am here walking with you when I will not walk this earth till I make it all new. You are thinking how the New Jerusalem will descend and I will place My feet on the great mountain and it will become a great plain. First, one must understand what I wrote in Joel 2:28 and Acts 2:17. I said I will pour out My Spirit upon all. Men and women will prophesy in My name. The older will receive dreams. The younger will have visions. This is a dream. A dream happens while you are asleep. A vision happens when you are awake. I am not actually walking physically with you right now. I am officiating in the Most Holy Place on your behalf as well as all others. It has been misunderstood by some who thought when I showed you that I was kneeling next to my prophet Ellen White that I was actually there. They also thought the same when I instructed Joe Crews to write the book Creeping Compromise. I am in the Most Holy Place but I am also with you in a dream. He calls me by my heavenly name and says, “You are not alone. You are never alone. I walk with you always.”
Summation
Jesus has promised that when we gather together in His name, He will be in our midst. In fact, He has promised that He will always be with us. He does this through the work of the Holy Spirit.
Conclusion
There is no conflict with Scripture and what Ernie was shown. We must remember that he was shown an illustration of how God inspired Ellen White. We wonder why Mr. Prewitt brought up this point, when Jesus stated that He comes to us through the Holy Spirit.
Joe Crews not inspired?
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“What caught my attention immediately was the diluting of the significance of the Testimonies by claiming for Joe Crews the same quality of inspiration granted to Ellen White. Does the reader realize that this was the argument used by many in the South Pacific who claimed to believe in Ellen White’s ‘inspiration.’ They understood her to be ‘inspired’ in the same sense that a consecrated preacher is ‘inspired.’
If Joe Crews had been a prophet, even for a short enough time to write Creeping Compromise, he would have written more as a prophet than three fourth’s of the prophets that wrote the Bible.”
Fact
When someone writes a religious book, that person is either inspired by Satan or the Holy Spirit. Read the following and decide who inspired John Bunyan as he wrote “The Pilgrim’s Progress.”
The Review and Herald, May 30, 1912
Consider John Bunyan imprisoned in the Bedford jail. His enemies think they have placed him where his work for others must cease. But not so. He is not idle. The love for souls continues to burn within him, and from the loath-some dungeon there is sent forth a light that has shone to all parts of the civilized world. There he wrote his wonderful allegory of the pilgrim's journey from the land of destruction to the celestial city. This book, "The Pilgrim's Progress," portrays the Christian life so accurately, and presents the love of Christ so attractively, that through its instrumentality hundreds and thousands have been converted.
If you have not already done so, please read the book, Creeping Compromise, by Joe Crews and decide who inspired him as he wrote it. This book was not whole-heartedly accepted in his day. Is God giving His people another chance to accept its life-changing principles?
Books like Pilgrim’s Progress and Creeping Compromise are not to be above the Bible, however, they are both inspired by God’s Holy Spirit.
God says:
John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 16:13-14
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
James 1:5
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
Special Testimonies on Education, p. 204
Let me tell you what I know of this heavenly Guest. The Holy Spirit was brooding over the youth during the school hours: but some hearts were so cold and dark that they had no desire for the Spirit's presence, and the light of God was withdrawn. That heavenly visitant would have opened the understanding, would have given wisdom and knowledge in all lines of study that would be employed to the glory of God.
S.D.A. Bible Commentary, Vol. 3, p. 1156
Has not God said He would give the Holy Spirit to them that ask Him? and is not this spirit a real, true actual guide? Some men seem afraid to take God at His word as though it would be presumption in them. They pray for the Lord to teach us and yet are afraid to credit the pledged word of God and believe we have been taught of Him. So long as we come to our heavenly Father humbly and with a spirit to be taught, willing and anxious to learn, why should we doubt God's fulfilment of His own promise? You must not for a moment doubt Him and dishonor Him thereby. When you have sought to know His will, your part in the operation with God is to believe that you will be led and guided and blessed in the doing of His will. We may mistrust ourselves lest we misinterpret His teachings, but make even this a subject of prayer, and trust Him, still trust Him to the uttermost, that His Holy Spirit will lead you to interpret aright His plans and the working of His providence.
It was Christ who guided the Israelites through the wilderness. And it is Christ who is guiding His people today, showing them where and how to work (Letter 335, 1904).
Selected Messages, Book 2, p. 285
Jesus Guided Your Hands.--Who has been by your side as you have performed these critical operations? Who has kept you calm and self-possessed in the crisis, giving you quick, sharp discernment, clear eyesight, steady nerves, and skillful precision? The Lord Jesus has sent His angel to your side to tell you what to do. A hand has been laid upon your hand. Jesus, and not you, has guided the movements of your instrument. At times you have realized this, and a wonderful calmness has come over you. You dared not hurry, and yet you worked rapidly, knowing that there was not a moment to lose. The Lord has greatly blessed you.-- Testimonies, vol. 8, pp. 187, 188 (To the medical superintendent of the Battle Creek Sanitarium, 1899).
Summation
God has promised us that if we lack wisdom, He will give us wisdom. He has promised that the Holy Spirit will guide us into all truth.
Conclusion
A person does not need to be a prophet to be inspired. Joe Crews was guided by the Holy Spirit in what he wrote. Prophets are not the only ones who are led by God. Everyone who asks for the Holy Spirit and prays for guidance can expect this promise to be fulfilled. The Holy Spirit can inspire anyone, in different ways, who is willing to listen to Him and obey. This in no way dilutes the significance of Ellen White’s ministry. She was clearly a prophet of God as Ernie’s dreams clearly point out below. Let us remember that prophets, who are just as human as those who are not prophets, are simply carrying out a specific gift of the Holy Spirit.
A View of Heaven and a Message for His People, December 10, 2006
He then told me that He instructed His prophet, Ellen White, to write about our worship.
The Mailroom, July 24-27, 2007
He then writes in the sky and tells me to read and share what He had His prophet, Ellen White, to write.
Get Ready, March 18, 2008
Our Creator showed His prophet, Ellen White, to pen what is now written in Maranatha, page 253 and also Last Day Events, Chapter 12.
Testing the Spirits, May 12, 2008
“It has been misunderstood by some who thought when I showed you that I was kneeling next to my prophet Ellen White that I was actually there.”
In His Time, July 12, 2008
To those who call themselves shepherds or ministers, I have sent messages through My prophet Ellen White.
Talking to evil spirits
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Other writers have called attention to a glaring issue in Ernie’s dreams. In one of them he encounters three evil angels. They appear to him in his dream. (How did they get there?). He talks with them. It is no symbolic talk….Now think these things through for a minute. Since when is Satan unable to make eye-contact with someone he is tricking? And since when should we identify evil angels by their ability to say our new name? And how do evil angels get into a God-inspired dream? . . . The fact is that we should never never never talk to evil spirits. It is the most dangerous thing we could do. They are incredibly skilled at overmastering our minds. That God would permit Ernie, in a dream, to talk to them; that God would model how to identify false angels in such a way as to make it easy for Satan to take advantage, is unthinkable.”
Fact
- Ernie did not willingly speak with evil spirits. He at first believed they were angels of God. When he found out they were evil angels, he immediately called out to God for help. This part of the “If You Love Me” dream is to show how easily we can be tricked by Satan and his angels and what we are to do when we are in trouble—immediately call out to God for help. “Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you” (James 4:7).
- Mr. Prewitt fails to realize that Ernie, at first, unknowingly speaks with evil spirits in the dream. Secondly, he is not controlled by them, because it is a dream not a real-life situation. The lack of eye contact and not knowing the new name was a way for us to identify that the angels in the dream are evil. The lesson in this dream is that we are to be aware how easily Satan and his angels can trick us. It was not a “model” on how to identify real evil angels. It is simply a way of teaching us that we must beware of them. As the last days are upon us, the battle against them will be stronger.
- Evil angels can get into God-inspired dreams as the following quotations show:
Zechariah 3:1, 2
And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
Manuscript Releases, Vol. 16, p.171
James was counting the angels, and I stood trembling with fear. My life came up before [me] and looked so full of wrongs I could not see how I should be able to stand. Just then Satan came where I was and said to me, “You are lost; you are now my property [and] will go with me to the dark regions.” My feelings I cannot describe. To be separated from the Jesus I had loved and to take up my abode with those that I abhorred looked dreadful to me. At the same time, I felt unworthy to be with the lovely Jesus.
God says:
The Review and Herald, August 11, 1903
Thus men came to Christ. And mingling with his hearers were angels in the form of men, making their suggestions, criticizing, misapplying, and misinterpreting the Saviour's words. Christ presented the truth in the form of parables. This was the only way in which he could rebuke sin without causing personal offense.
In this time evil angels in the form of men will talk with those who know the truth. They will misinterpret and misconstrue the statements of the messengers of God.
Summation
Ernie did not willingly speak with evil spirits. The dream was a lesson of how we are to beware of Satan and his evil angels. The Bible and Spirit of Prophecy clearly show that Satan is able to get into God-inspired dreams or visions. Although these examples do not mention talking with evil angels, Ellen White’s example shows that Satan was able to talk to her. Since angels are able to impersonate humans in real life, surely they are able to impersonate good angels in dreams, just as they did in Ernie’s dream.
Conclusion
Since Ernie only spoke to evil angels in a dream, since he has no control over the dream, and since the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy show that evil angels can get into dreams, Mr. Prewitt’s point is completely invalid and unbiblical.
All heaven watching
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“And is all heaven watching the dream at the same time? The Herald says: Herald looks at me and smiles so that his dimples show. I look into his eyes and see such love and patience! He calls me by my heavenly name (the name I wanted to hear, but can only remember during a dream). He says, ‘All of heaven was watching and waiting until you cried out for help.’ ”
God says:
The Review and Herald, December 31, 1901
The Church militant is not the Church triumphant. Unless the people of God wage a valiant warfare against every species of sin, they will never pass through the portals of the holy city. And we shall have no second trial. Now is the accepted time, the time in which we are to obtain the education that will enable us to live in the heavenly courts. The whole heavenly universe is watching with the deepest interest to see who in this primary school is practicing the lessons of Christ.
Medical Ministry, p. 131
But a change has come that has hindered the work which God designed to move forward without a trace of selfishness. All heaven is watching with intense anxiety to see what is to be the outcome of the work which is so large and so important. God is watching, the heavenly universe is watching; and souls are perishing.
The Review and Herald, September 18, 1913
God abhors indifference and disloyalty in a time of crisis in his work. The whole universe is watching with inexpressible interest the closing scenes of the great controversy between good and evil. The people of God are nearing the borders of the eternal world; what is of more importance to them than that they be loyal to the God of heaven?
The General Conference Bulletin, April 6, 1903
All the inhabitants of the universe are watching, as in these last days God is preparing a people to stand in the judgment. Let us ask God to clothe us with the robe of Christ's righteousness, that we may be prepared for the coming of the Son of man.
S.D.A. Bible Commentary, Vol. 6, p. 1088
The inhabitants of unfallen worlds and of the heavenly universe are watching with an intense interest the conflict between good and evil. They rejoice as Satan's subtleties, one after another, are discerned and met with "It is written," as Christ met them in His conflict with the wily foe. Every victory gained is a gem in the crown of life. In the day of victory all the universe of heaven triumphs. The harps of the angels send forth the most precious music, accompanying the melody of the voice (Letter 5, 1900).
Conclusion
We can see from God’s Word that Mr. Prewitt has no excuse to doubt that not only heaven but the whole universe is watching with intense interest the closing scenes of this earth’s history. “Our little world is the lesson book of the universe.” Desire of Ages, p. 19.
Literal and symbolic
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“But some of those images are used in a way that confounds the literal and the symbolic.
I am thinking of the pictures of mass execution by an engineered mass guillotine. As each person dies, surrendering all, the Herald bids Ernie ‘watch closely.’
I watch as each assigned guardian angel has placed in his left arm a white robe to hold for the individual that just surrendered all. The robe is pure white with a large red border at the bottom. {9} In their right hand is placed a pure silver tablet with a pure gold border and a red ribbon wrapped around it. The tablet reads Revelation 2:10.
Martyrs will get literal white robes with red hems. This is true. They get these, however, at the resurrection.
Martyrs also get symbolic white robes – no red hems. This is pictured in Revelation 5. This happens when their name comes up in the judgment. Some face the judgment in heaven before they die. Some face it after they die. But no one faces it at the moment of death. So this picture is a disturbing mixing of metaphors – it is either a spiritualizing of a literal robe, or the literalizing of a symbolic one. And either way, it is confusing the timing.
Such confusion prevents people from understanding Revelation 5 and Revelation 3:5 correctly by leading them to associate the white robes in those passages with the memorable robes Ellen White saw on individuals in heaven.”
Fact
Martyrs will receive white garments that have red on the border after they are resurrected.
God says:
Early Writings, p. 18
As we were traveling along, we met a company who also were gazing at the glories of the place. I noticed red as a border on their garments; their crowns were brilliant; their robes were pure white. As we greeted them, I asked Jesus who they were. He said they were martyrs that had been slain for Him. With them was an innumerable company of little ones; they also had a hem of red on their garments.
The above quotation is also a footnote in the section of the dream referenced below.
Ernie’s dream says:
Stand Fast, February 5, 2008
I watch as each assigned guardian angel has placed in his left arm a white robe to hold for the individual that just surrendered all. The robe is pure white with a large red border at the bottom….The guardian angel takes this robe and holds it closely, as if to show love and adoration, until this person is raised from death to everlasting life. Then this person will be dressed in this very special robe.
Summation
Ellen White clearly points out that martyrs will receive robes that have red borders. This is after they are resurrected. Ernie’s dream teaches the same truth. As can be seen, Mr. Prewitt left out the part of the dream that explains more about the robes.
Conclusion
There is no confusion or mixing the literal and spiritual as Mr. Prewitt suggests. Ernie’s dream describes the same robe with red borders as what Ellen White saw in vision. If Mr. Prewitt had read the dream carefully, he would have seen that Ernie recognizes this. The only one confusing the subject is Mr. Prewitt himself. Not only does he misquote a chapter (referencing Revelation 5 instead of 6), but he does not take into context what Ernie has written.
Tithe
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Frankly, this statement [about tithe] is emphatic. It refers to God as holding ‘keys’ to a ‘Great Storehouse.’ It refers to tithes as a ‘tribute.’ This is very odd. The tithe belongs to God. It is not a tax. It is not a thank offering. It is not a confession that we have been conquered. In short, how is it a ‘tribute?’ ”
Fact
The dreams have never stated that a tribute is tithe.
God says:
Deuteronomy 16:10
And thou shalt keep the feast of weeks unto the LORD thy God with a tribute of a freewill offering of thine hand, which thou shalt give unto the LORD thy God, according as the LORD thy God hath blessed thee.
The Review and Herald, February 9, 1886
Surely goodness and mercy attend us at every step. Not till we wish the infinite Father to cease bestowing his gifts on us, should we impatiently exclaim, Is there no end of giving? Not only should we faithfully render to God our tithes, which he claims as his own, but we should bring a tribute to his treasury as an offering of gratitude. Let us with joyful hearts bring to our Creator the first-fruits of all his bounties,--our choicest possessions, our best and holiest service.
Ernie’s dream says:
The Boardroom, April 24, 2009
This document must go into details, showing the truth as to the appropriate placement of tithe and tributes.
Summation
The Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy clearly reveal that a tribute is a freewill offering.
Conclusion
This is another case where Mr. Prewitt has misinterpreted Ernie’s dream, which resulted in a wrong conclusion. Ernie’s dream shows that God not only wants us to be concerned with how the tithe is being used, but also the offerings we give.
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“But that is a small issue compared to the questions I suggested you ask yourself. These Ellen White answers plainly.
The tithe is sacred, reserved by God for Himself. It is to be brought into His treasury to be used to sustain the gospel laborers in their work. For a long time the Lord has been robbed because there are those who do not realize that the tithe is God's reserved portion. {CS 93.2}
Some have been dissatisfied, and have said, ‘I will not longer pay my tithe; for I have no confidence in the way things are managed at the heart of the work.’ But will you rob God because you think the management of the work is not right? Make your complaint, plainly and openly, in the right spirit, to the proper ones. Send in your petitions for things to be adjusted and set in order; but do not withdraw from the work of God, and prove unfaithful, because others are not doing right.--9T 249. {CS 93.3}”
Fact
Tithe is sacred and should not be misused.
God says:
Sermons and Talks, Vol. 2, p. 74
If the conference business is not managed according to the order of the Lord, that is the sin of the erring one. The Lord will not hold you responsible for it if you do what you can to correct the evil. But do not commit sin yourselves by withholding from the Lord His own property.
Summation
If the conference business is not managed correctly, God will hold us responsible for supporting it with our tithe if we do not try to correct the evil.
Conclusion
The issue Ellen White was addressing in the quote Mr. Prewitt used is that people had stopped paying tithe altogether because they had lost confidence in the Conference. This is a completely different issue to the counsel Ernie received in the “Stand Fast” dream.
Fanaticism
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“With these and a few other statements it is easy enough to picture what Satan is trying to do. First, he works through a hyper imagination to create an impressible ‘prophet.’ Then he advocates being led by the ‘Spirit.’ Then he pours out a mighty gushing of this kind of enthusiasm, a false latter rain of dreams and visions.
It is that tidal wave that Ellen White sought to avert. Ernie seems to allude to the wave, and the possibility that his allusion is based in fact is scary.
The Herald calls me by my heavenly name and says, ‘If you could only see and understand the impact these messages are making on new souls and the awakening they are having on old souls. Many are beginning to awake from their sleep. You are one of many that Jesus is working with all over the world. There are others who speak a different language with whom the Great King is working. You are not alone. You are being led by His Spirit. Those who make accusations against you will have to give an account before the Great Judge.’ ”
Fact
Fanaticism and false revivals are man-centered and lead away from the truth.
God says:
The Great Controversy (1911), p. 464
In many of the revivals which have occurred during the last half century, the same influences have been at work, to a greater or less degree, that will be manifest in the more extensive movements of the future. There is an emotional excitement, a mingling of the true with the false, that is well adapted to mislead. Yet none need be deceived. In the light of God's word it is not difficult to determine the nature of these movements. Wherever men neglect the testimony of the Bible, turning away from those plain, soul-testing truths which require self-denial and renunciation of the world, there we may be sure that God's blessing is not bestowed. And by the rule which Christ Himself has given, "Ye shall know them by their fruits" (Matthew 7:16), it is evident that these movements are not the work of the Spirit of God.
Maranatha, p. 158
The very last deception of Satan will be to make of none effect the testimony of the Spirit of God. "Where there is no vision, the people perish" (Prov. 29:18). Satan will work ingeniously, in different ways and through different agencies, to unsettle the confidence of God's remnant people in the true testimony. He will bring in spurious visions to mislead, and will mingle the false with the true, and so disgust people that they will regard everything that bears the name of visions as a species of fanaticism; but honest souls, by contrasting false and true, will be enabled to distinguish between them. . . .
Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 103
When great and wise men had proved to their satisfaction that it was impossible for the world to be destroyed by water, when the fears of the people were quieted, when all regarded Noah's prophecy as a delusion, and looked upon him as a fanatic--then it was that God's time had come.
Manuscript Releases, Vol. 14, p. 133
I would speak in warning to those who have stood for years resisting light and cherishing the spirit of opposition. How long will you hate and despise the messengers of God's righteousness? God has given them His message. They bear the word of the Lord. There is salvation for you, but only through the merits of Jesus Christ. The grace of the Holy Spirit has been offered you again and again. Light and power from on high have been shed abundantly in the midst of you. Here was evidence, that all might discern whom the Lord recognized as His servants. But there are those who despised the men and the message they bore. They have taunted them with being fanatics, extremists, and enthusiasts.
The Faith I Live By, p. 296
Let the Testimonies be judged by their fruits. What is the spirit of their teaching? What has been the result of their influence? “All who desire to do so can acquaint themselves with the fruits of these visions.
Summation
False revivals lead to a neglect of the Bible and do not lead to a renouncing of the world. Ellen White’s writings prove themselves by the fruit they produce. Ernie’s dreams also prove themselves by the fruit they produce.
Conclusion
Ernie’s dreams do not lead to fanaticism as Mr. Prewitt suggests. They contain solemn messages that call God’s people to repent and to prepare for Christ’s imminent return. It is interesting to note that the critics of Noah’s time also accused Noah of fanaticism. This type of situation has not changed today.
More on fanaticism
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“One thing, Ellen White wanted to say as little as possible about Anna. Fanaticism is better treated with a calming influence than with an agitation. And Ellen White knew that scores of similar cases would arise in the future. She wrote of ‘tidal waves’ that would come were leading men to take up a prophet like Anna and support his or her claims...
“And what if you have resolved the issue of Ernie already? Ellen White indicates ‘scores’ of similar experiences would occur. I can count about a score of them. Maybe there are a score I know nothing about it. That would still leave room for several more. Why did Jesus say ‘beware?’ Because the false would not be obvious – that is how Ellen White explained it.”
God says:
The Desire of Ages, p. 62
Now pride and envy closed the door against the light. If the reports brought by the shepherds and the wise men were credited, they would place the priests and rabbis in a most unenviable position, disproving their claim to be the exponents of the truth of God. These learned teachers would not stoop to be instructed by those whom they termed heathen. It could not be, they said, that God had passed them by, to communicate with ignorant shepherds or uncircumcised Gentiles. They determined to show their contempt for the reports that were exciting King Herod and all Jerusalem. They would not even go to Bethlehem to see whether these things were so. And they led the people to regard the interest in Jesus as a fanatical excitement. Here began the rejection of Christ by the priests and rabbis. From this point their pride and stubbornness grew into a settled hatred of the Saviour. While God was opening the door to the Gentiles, the Jewish leaders were closing the door to themselves.
Life Sketches of Ellen G. White, p. 220
At this time visions were given me to correct the errors of those who had taken extreme views of some texts of scripture, and refrained wholly from labor, and rejected all those who would not receive their views on this point, and some other things which they held to be religious duties. God revealed these errors to me in vision, and sent me to his erring children to declare them; but many of them wholly rejected the message, and charged me with conforming to the world. On the other hand, the nominal Adventists charge me with fanaticism, and I was falsely, and by some, wickedly, represented as being the leader of the fanaticism I was laboring constantly to arrest by bearing my testimony given me of God.
Conclusion
Mr. Prewitt again shows that his heart is not open to God sending a prophet. Like the people of Jesus’ day, Mr. Prewitt is willing to accept dead prophets, but the living word of God he is unwilling to accept. Of course there is going to be fanaticism, but this is no reason for raising objections against Ernie’s dreams. “Prove all things” is the Bible’s admonition.
Cannot accept dreams even if there is no error in them?
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Yes, I will have to answer before the Great Judge. So also, reader, will you. You can not be too careful how you hear, how you accept. If there are no ‘glaring inconsistencies’ nor ‘untruthful utterances’ in Ernie’s work, that will not be cause enough to advocate his dreams. That is how Jones fell into advocating the false dreams of the young lady.”
Fact
Although we must be on guard against false prophets, we are also warned not to despise prophesyings.
God says:
1 Thessalonians 5:20-21
Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
The Acts of the Apostles, p. 263
The apostle cautioned the Thessalonians not to despise the gift of prophecy, and in the words, "Quench not the Spirit; despise not prophesyings; prove all things; hold fast that which is good," he enjoined a careful discrimination in distinguishing the false from the true.
Isaiah 8:20
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
John 8:31-32
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 102
Of the vast population of the earth before the Flood, only eight souls believed and obeyed God's word through Noah. For a hundred and twenty years the preacher of righteousness warned the world of the coming destruction, but his message was rejected and despised. So it will be now.
Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 5, p. 672
I was shown that many had so little spirituality that they did not understand the value of the Testimonies or their real object. They talked flippantly of the Testimonies given by God for the benefit of His people, and passed judgment upon them, giving their opinion and criticizing this and that, when they would better have placed their hands upon their lips, and prostrated themselves in the dust; for they could not appreciate the spirit of the Testimonies, because they knew so little of the Spirit of God.
Summation
The majority have always rejected God’s messengers. The Bible says to prove all things and hold fast that which is good. There are plain tests in the Bible that God has given so that we will not be deceived.
Conclusion
Mr. Prewitt’s conclusion is illogical and does not harmonize with the Bible. His conclusion suggests that God will never send another prophet. The Bible says to test everything by the word of God. Mr. Prewitt insinuates that this test is no longer valid.
Nit-picking
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“This section isn’t really for the average reader. As I read through Ernie’s dreams (and I did read all of them carefully), I noted a number of small things. These are the kind of observations that gave me hints that something was not quite right with the dreams. But some of them are not obvious contradictions of true principles. Noticing them might even be nit-picking.
“But, then again, they might be helpful to those seeking to shake a misplaced trust. So I record them here.”
Fact
This is not how God has instructed us to test a prophet.
God says:
Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Numbers 12:8
With him [Moses] will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?
Luke 10:16
He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.
Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 1, p. 236
The ministers who have labored in that State have not exerted a right influence. Hints and insinuations have been thrown out against Brother and Sister White, and the managers of the work at Battle Creek, which have found a ready reception in the hearts of many, especially the credulous and faultfinding. Satan knows how to make his attacks. He works upon minds to excite jealousy and dissatisfaction toward those at the head of the work. The gifts are next questioned; then, of course, they have but little weight, and instruction given through vision is disregarded.
Ibid., Vol. 5, p. 241
Difficulties are often caused by the vendors of gossip, whose whispered hints and suggestions poison unsuspecting minds and separate the closest friends. Mischief-makers are seconded in their evil work by the many who stand with open ears and evil heart, saying: "Report, . . . and we will report it." This sin should not be tolerated among the followers of Christ. No Christian parent should permit gossip to be repeated in the family circle or remarks to be made disparaging the members of the church.
Counsels for the Church, p. 174
Criticism and Its Effects
Christians should be careful in regard to their words. They should never carry unfavorable reports from one of their friends to another, especially if they are aware that there is a lack of union between them. It is cruel to hint and insinuate, as though you knew a great deal in regard to this friend or that acquaintance of which others are ignorant. Such hints go further, and create more unfavorable impressions, than to frankly relate the facts in an unexaggerated manner. What harm has not the church of Christ suffered from these things!
Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 4b, p. 123
I was shown that those who are troubled with infidelity and doubts should not go out to labor for others. That which is in the mind must flow out, and they realize not the effect of a hint, or the smallest doubt expressed. Satan makes it a barbed arrow. It acts like a slow poison, which, before the victim is made sensible of his danger, has affected the whole system, and undermined a good constitution, and finally ends in death. It is just so with the poison of unbelief, and doubts upon Scripture facts. One who has influence, hints, or throws a doubt into minds suggesting that which Satan has suggested to them, that one scripture contradicts another, and in a very wise manner, as though they had found out some wonderful mystery, which had been hid from believers and the holy in every age of the world, cast their midnight darkness into other minds. They lose the relish they have had for the truth, and come out infidels. All this is the work of a few words spoken, which had a hidden power, because they seemed involved in mystery.
Summation
It is a fearful thing to speak evil of God’s servants the prophets. When we reject them, we are really rejecting Jesus.
Conclusion
How does Mr. Prewitt expect anyone to take him seriously when he resorts to unbiblical nit-picking? Whatever happened to testing a prophet by the tests God has provided in His Word? The fact Mr. Prewitt realizes that the remaining objections are not valid Bible tests but rather nit-picking does not need any comment. “For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.” Matthew 12:37.
Interrupting the dream
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Can a prophetic dream be interrupted by an outsider? In Ellen White’s visions no one was able to disturb her communion with heaven.
“As I was unconscious to all that transpired around me while in vision, I will copy from Brother Nichols’ description of that meeting. {LS80 232.2}
“ ‘Sister Ellen was taken off in vision with extraordinary manifestations, and continued talking in vision with a clear voice, which could be distinctly understood by all present, until about sundown. The opposition was much exasperated, as well as excited, to hear Sister E. talk in vision, which they declared was of the devil; they exhausted all their influence and bodily strength, to destroy the effect of the vision. They would unite in singing very loud, and then alternately would talk and read from the Bible in a loud voice, in order that she might not be heard, until their strength was exhausted, and their hands would shake so they could not read from the Bible. But amidst all this confusion and noise, Sister Ellen's clear and shrill voice, as she talked in vision, was distinctly heard by all present. The opposition of these men continued as long as they could talk and sing, notwithstanding some of their own friends rebuked them, and requested them to stop. But Robbins said, ‘You are bowed to an idol; you are worshiping a golden calf.’ ” {LS80 232.3}
“What about Ernie’s dream? It seems one dream was interrupted by his wife, Becky. It makes one wonder.
“We are now in the corridor again. The Herald says, ‘What I show you now, I was showing you when Becky awoke you from your dream. Permission was given then to share a little of what was shown you.’ ”
Fact
This is not a Biblical test of a prophet.
Conclusion
Let us be careful how we limit what God can and will do if He sees it is best.
Bible versions
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“I use the King James Version for study and memory work. And I consider it to be based on the highest quality of Greek manuscripts. It is an excellent version.
“Ellen White used it generally. When other versions came into existence late in her ministry, she also made significant use of them.
“Ernie’s visions emphasize, in a way very different from Ellen White’s relation to the various versions, the chosenness of the King James Version. Why the difference between Ellen White and Ernie on this point? There are many that would find in this very point evidence of Ernie’s legitimacy. I hope we are not tricked that easily. The devil knows how to preach to the choir.”
Fact
The King James Version is the most reliable English Bible translation available.
There are scores of missing verses in many modern translations. For example, the following verses are missing in the NIV, one of most accepted modern translations: Matthew 17:21; 18:11; 23:14; Mark 15:28; John 5:4; Acts 8:37. Not only are whole verses missing, but many verses have been altered or shortened.
Conclusion
Mr. Prewitt’s conclusion is similar to the Jews who rejected Jesus.
Matthew 12:22-24
Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
Flattery
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Ellen White described how Anna’s visions would flatter persons that had been rebuked earlier. Flattery is not a good thing. But the Herald absolutely flatters ‘Anonymous.’ You will find nothing like it in all the thousands of encouraging statements to individuals in the Testimonies. And what he says to him is a twisting of Bible metaphors similar to the one mentioned earlier.”
Fact
There is a big difference between flattery and encouragement. Definition of flattery from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/flattery: excessive or insincere praise; a pleasing self-deception. If we follow Mr. Prewitt’s description of flattery, we would have to include the Bible examples below. Regarding a “twisting of Bible metaphors” (the mustard seed application), why does Mr. Prewitt again limit God? Has he not heard of a “dual application”? The lesson of the mustard seed in the “Go Forth” dream was to show how faith is to grow. That is not against Bible truth.
God says:
Daniel 9:23
At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.
Daniel 10:11
And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling.
Daniel 10:19
And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for thou hast strengthened me.
Job 1:8
And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Luke 1:27-30
To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be. And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
Luke 1:46-49
And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.
Acts 13:22
And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.
Numbers 12:6-9
And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?
Christ Triumphant, p. 334
Daniel identified himself with Israel’s sins, and confessed their sins as his own. He prayed, “O Lord, hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and do; defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy city and thy people are called by thy name.” Yet Gabriel, the heavenly messenger, thrice called him a man greatly beloved.
Conclusion
Mr. Prewitt is so busy trying to find many reasons why Ernie’s dreams are not from God that he misses all the wonderful lessons that Christ is trying to teach. From Signs of the Times, June 13, 1906: “But to read the Scriptures in a casual way, without seeking to comprehend Christ's lessons or to comply with His requirements, is not enough. There are treasures in the Word of God that can be discovered only by sinking the shaft deep into the mines of truth.” Would not this apply to all of God’s messages given through dreams, visions, or His angels until the end of this world?
Witnesses
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Ernie was shown that some prominent person would rise to be his helper in the work of promoting the dreams. He was shown the name of that person, but has not revealed it because he wants that person to join of his own free will. However, to give confirmation to God’s foreknowledge of the person’s decision, Ernie has shared the name with ‘a few select persons to be used as witnesses.’
“The fulfillment of some predictions is not, of course, an evidence of the truthfulness of the claims of the predictor. Incredibly, some of the predictions of false prophets came to be fulfilled during Ellen White’s time…
“Still, it would be helpful to know the names of those entrusted with the name of the individual. Their reputation for integrity and honesty would be something interesting to check into. Why? Because none other than Joseph Smith relied heavily on ‘witnesses’ to confirm events that tended to back his claims. But after a decade many of these ‘witnesses’ had repudiated their statements of affirmation and were shown to be generally unreliable persons even at the time they were chosen as witnesses.”
Fact
Ellen White wrote about witnesses of her visions. Examples were given earlier in this chapter. One more follows.
Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 2, p. 168
At this meeting our dear Bro. Benson was convicted of the truth. He believed the vision he witnessed to be the power of God, and was affected by it. He fully embraced the truth. Others decided at that meeting to obey all God's commandments and live. Since that meeting we have met Bro. B.'s cheerful countenance in every conference we have attended in Vermont. But we shall meet him in this mortal state no more. He died in hope, and will rest in the silent grave until the resurrection of the just.
Conclusion
According to Mr. Prewitt’s analogy, because Ellen White wrote about these witnesses, does that mean we cannot rely on her visions as being from God? Does the fact that Ellen White relied on witnesses make her of non-effect? We think not.
Repentance
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“So when we read in the Bible of men calling others to repent, we understand that the call to repentance involved instruction on how to live. Both Paul and John the Baptist mentioned ‘works meet for repentance.’ Ac 26:20; Lu 3:8.
“So I was very interested at the added word (capitalization in the original) ‘just’ given to persons commissioned to share the spirit’s messages. There is just something strange about adding the word ‘just’ in a place where it doesn’t belong, in a place where it changes a summary into a contradiction.
“He goes quickly to Brother and Sister M, places His hands on their head and says, ‘Go and JUST tell them to REPENT.’ ”
Fact
The reason it stated in the “Go Forth” dream for Brother and Sister M to “Go and JUST tell them to REPENT” is because at that time they were delving into “winds of doctrines” that were not correct. God did not want them to share false doctrines but rather the message of repentance and, of course, the “works” that follow.
Ernie’s dream says:
Go Forth!, May 9, 2007
Jesus walks over and places His hands into one of the pitchers then rubs His hands together. He goes quickly to Brother and Sister M, places His hands on their head and says, “Go and JUST tell them to REPENT. If they do not hear or do not want to hear, continue on and tarry not as there is no time.” He then commands for many angels that excel in speed. “Go and assist them and hurry as there is no time left.” I watch as Brother and Sister M, with many, many, many angels shoot upwards as if an arrow made of high speed light.
God says:
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Gospel Workers, p. 252
“Accompanied by the power of the Holy Spirit, let them meet the people with the message borne by John the Baptist, "Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." [MATT. 3:2.]
Conclusion
Mr. Prewitt made an assumption that is not correct.
Elijah's name
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“The angel also refers to the Elijah message. What is most interesting about this is that the angel speaks in Greek. Ernie, presumably not knowing Greek, asks the angel to spell the word. The angel spells, in English characters, a transliteration of a Greek word.
“I don’t mean to be too technical, but something is really wrong here. Greek has a number of characters that do not have a one-for-one correspondence to English characters. So when I want to type in Greek I have to adjust my thinking. Sometimes ‘j’ and ‘h’ and ‘q’ and ‘v’ are redefined (Greek doesn’t have those characters, and different Greek fonts use different keys for the unparallel characters) to represent other sounds.
“The angel says that Ernie and the faithful are, together ‘Hliva.’
“Now you can search all day with the best resources you can find in your Bible reference works and you will never find this word. But do not worry. There is a hyperlink on the website to another site that has this very word for Elijah.
“Here is the problem. The ‘H’ is a capital vowel with the sound of a long ‘A’ and the ‘v’ is a substitute character that, when typed in Greek, looks like an ‘s.’ And for that matter, it is ‘s’ – sigma. And the ‘va’ is a typo on the website – it should be ‘av.’ How would an accurate transliteration of the Greek be spelled in English characters? Not ‘Hliva’ but ‘Aye-lee-as’ or ‘Elias’ as it is found in scripture.
“Would an angel copy a font goof from a Greek website when spelling to a prophet a Greek word?”
Fact
Original Word - ÅHlivaß
Word Origin - of Hebrew origin (0452)
Transliterated Word - Helias
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/kjv/helias.html
Matt 17.3 ijdouV w[fqh aujtoi' Mwu>sh' kaiV =Hliva sullalou'nte met= aujtou
http://bible.org/search/apachesolr_search/hliva
2243 \G!Hliva"\n Helias {hay-lee'-as}
of Hebrew origin H0452 ; TDNT - 2:928,306; n pr m
AV - Elias 30; 30
Elijah = "my God is Jehovah"
1) a prophet born at Thisbe, the unflinching champion of the theocracy in the reigns of the idolatrous kings Ahab and Ahaziah. He was taken up to heaven without dying, whence the Jews expected he would return just before the advent of the Messiah, whom he would prepare the minds of the Israelites to receive.
Source: http://christianlearninglounge.net/0_bibles/LS-bible/g/220.html (King James Bible, 1769 Edition/Living Strong's Lexical Map/Greek Lexicon)
Hliva is also a valid last name as can be seen at this link:
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi?lastname=Hliva&firstname=&nt=exact
Conclusion
Mr. Prewitt has again assumed incorrectly.
Angels without titles
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Another writer has observed the anomaly of the angel visitor being called ‘the Herald.’ As this point doesn’t strike me with the force it does him, I will not spend much time on it. But his point is that angels, throughout scripture, are without titles. The notable exception, Gabriel, shows up only twice, in Daniel and again in relation to the virgin birth of Jesus.”
Fact
Gabriel is not a title. It is the name of the angel who took the place of Satan after he rebelled against God. Angels do have titles, as can be seen in the following verses.
God says:
The following verses refer to Satan.
Matthew 4:3
And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
Revelation 20:2
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years.
Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
John 12:31
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
The following refer to Gabriel and other angels.
Christian Experience and Teachings of Ellen G. White, p. 253
IN RELATING HER VISIONS, MRS. WHITE FREQUENTLY SPOKE OF THE ONE WHO HAD INSTRUCTED HER, AS "MY ACCOMPANYING ANGEL," OR "MY INSTRUCTOR," OR "MY GUIDE." BY THESE EXPRESSIONS, SHE REFERRED TO A BRIGHT, GLORIOUS ANGEL, WHO INVARIABLY ACTED AS HER GUIDE OR INSTRUCTOR.
Christ Triumphant, p. 334
Daniel identified himself with Israel’s sins, and confessed their sins as his own. He prayed, “O Lord, hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and do; defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy city and thy people are called by thy name.” Yet Gabriel, the heavenly messenger, thrice called him a man greatly beloved.
The Great Controversy, p. 512
A guardian angel is appointed to every follower of Christ. These heavenly watchers shield the righteous from the power of the wicked one.
The Faith I Live By, p. 210
Every man's work passes in review before God. . . . Opposite each name in the books of heaven is entered, with terrible exactness, every wrong word, every selfish act, every unfulfilled duty, and every secret sin, with every artful dissembling. Heaven-sent warnings or reproofs neglected, wasted moments, unimproved opportunities, the influence exerted for good or for evil, with its far-reaching results, all are chronicled by the recording angel.
Ernie’s dream says:
Love and Rebuke, April 12, 2008
The Herald steps forward and says to all. “Understand I am the Herald. I am God’s messenger. Herald is not my name but what I am. I have said before that my real name is not important. I am just a messenger. The name that should be called is the name Jesus. This is the name that all should have on their lips. This is the name all should want to sing and praise.
Conclusion
The fact that Mr. Prewitt admits this point does not strike him with much force, makes us wonder why he even mentions it. Is it to create doubt? Also, because the Bible does mention an angel by name, Gabriel, what is the issue? The Herald in Ernie’s dreams is not even the angel’s name. The word “herald” simply means “A person who carries or proclaims important news; a messenger” or “One that gives a sign or indication of something to come; a harbinger.” www.thefreedictionary.com/herald
Ellen White the prophet
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“Several times in the dreams Jesus refers to ‘His prophet, Ellen White.’ I, for one, consider Ellen White to be a prophet. But that was not the name Jesus chose for her while she was alive. It was because of the prejudice against those claiming to be prophets, and also because her work was more than that of a prophet, that she took the title ‘messenger.’...
“It was John the Baptist of whom Jesus said he was ‘a prophet, yeah, more than a prophet.’ It is possible that our Savior would choose to call Ellen White ‘a prophet’in our day. But it is interesting that this would be a change from what was done in her life time.”
Fact
Ellen White was a prophet.
Conclusion
If Jesus referred to John the Baptist as a prophet, and more than a prophet, and since Mr. Prewitt considers Ellen White to be a prophet, what is the point? Can’t Jesus refer to Ellen White as His prophet if He so chooses? Also, considering many people in the Church no longer accept Ellen White as a prophet, the fact that Jesus calls Ellen White a prophet is very significant.
Without an intercessor
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“When Ernie’s guide writes of this time [after probation] the guide’s words do not help clarify this truth. Those inclined to think that they will be unsupported during that time are left to think that way still. And what does it mean to ‘smile like Christ’? And, honestly, what will a saint see in the moral mirror when he compares himself to Jesus? Contrast the dream and the scripture.
“How can you be like Christ and not look like Him? You say you want to be one of the 144,000, and yet how can you when you cannot stand without Christ holding you up to the Father? If you look like Christ, walk like Christ, smile like Christ, then you will be able to stand in that last day when Jesus cannot hold you up to the Father. When you look in a mirror and you see a clean vessel without any filth, then you will receive the blessing Jesus has commanded to pour forth.
“Job 9:20 If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse.
“No, a sanctified man will never perceive himself as a ‘clean vessel without any filth.’ And certainly that will not be the condition of receiving the Latter Rain.”
Fact
God’s people will never boast about the fact that they are without sin, because they will never feel worthy. His people also cannot receive the latter rain with sins on their record. When we smile like Christ it means we have Christ in us, and it shows. Please read the following important words from God in answer to the above questions and comments by Mr. Prewitt.
God says:
The Great Controversy (1911), p. 620
So, in the time of trouble, if the people of God had unconfessed sins to appear before them while tortured with fear and anguish, they would be overwhelmed; despair would cut off their faith, and they could not have confidence to plead with God for deliverance. But while they have a deep sense of their unworthiness, they have no concealed wrongs to reveal. Their sins have gone beforehand to judgment and have been blotted out, and they cannot bring them to remembrance.
Maranatha, p. 242
I also saw that many do not realize what they must be in order to live in the sight of the Lord without a high priest in the sanctuary through the time of trouble. Those who receive the seal of the living God and are protected in the time of trouble must reflect the image of Jesus fully.
I saw that many were neglecting the preparation so needful and were looking to the time of "refreshing" and the "latter rain" to fit them to stand in the day of the Lord and to live in His sight. Oh, how many I saw in the time of trouble without a shelter!
When Jesus leaves the sanctuary, then they who are holy and righteous will be holy and righteous still; for all their sins will then be blotted out, and they will be sealed with the seal of the living God. But those that are unjust and filthy will be unjust and filthy still; for then there will be no Priest in the sanctuary to offer their sacrifices, their confessions, and their prayers before the Father's throne. Therefore what is done to rescue souls from the coming storm of wrath must be done before Jesus leaves the most holy place of the heavenly sanctuary.
Manuscript Releases, Vol. 1, p. 176
Here are brought plainly to view those who will be vessels unto honor; for they will receive the latter rain. Every soul who in the light now shining upon our pathway continues in sin will be blinded, and will accept the delusions that come from Satan. We are now nearing the close of this earth's history. Where are the faithful watchmen on the walls of Zion who will not slumber, but faithfully declare the time of night? . . . There will be no envy, no jealousy, in the hearts of those who are seeking to be like Jesus in character. Letter 15, 1892, p. 5. (To Elder S. N. Haskell, June 25, 1892.)
General Conference Daily Bulletin, February 7, 1893
The latter rain is coming on those that are pure--all, then, will receive it as formerly. None receive the latter rain but those who do all they can. Christ will help us. All could be overcomers by the grace of God through the blood of Jesus. All heaven is interested in the work. Angels are interested.
The Review and Herald, April 21, 1891
The latter rain is to fall upon the people of God. A mighty angel is to come down from heaven, and the whole earth is to be lighted with his glory. Are we ready to take part in the glorious work of the third angel? Are our vessels ready to receive the heavenly dew? Have we defilement and sin in the heart? If so, let us cleanse the soul temple, and prepare for the showers of the latter rain. The refreshing from the presence of the Lord will never come to hearts filled with impurity. May God help us to die to self, that Christ, the hope of glory, may be formed within! I must have the Spirit of God in my heart. I can never go forward to do the great work of God, unless the Holy Spirit rests upon my soul. "As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God." The day of judgment is upon us. O that we may wash our robes of character, and make them white in the blood of the Lamb!
Evangelism, p. 701
Today you are to have your vessel purified, that it may be ready for the heavenly dew, ready for the showers of the latter rain; for the latter rain will come, and the blessing of God will fill every soul that is purified from every defilement.
The Adventist Home, p. 240
The mother's influence is an unceasing influence; and if it is always on the side of right, her children's characters will testify to her moral earnestness and worth. Her smile, her encouragement, may be an inspiring force. She may bring sunshine to the heart of her child by a word of love, a smile of approval. . . .
The Review and Herald, May 4, 1886
A religion of simple faith in the all-atoning, sacrifice of Christ, and of implicit obedience to God's moral rule of right, will make the household such a one as Heaven can smile upon. It will be productive of purity and peace; for they are obeying that Guide who came from heaven to earth to lead erring man to the mansions above.
Manuscript Releases, Vol. 7, p. 46
It is the privilege of every one who has a part in any branch of the Lord's work to know that his sins are forgiven, and to rejoice in the assurance of a higher life in the courts above. This hope is more precious than silver or gold or precious stones. Keep this hope ever bright, and seek to impart it to others. In the knowledge that God's smile rests upon you, your heart will be filled with joy and peace.
The Review and Herald, October 11, 1887
There are many who view themselves as defective in character when they look into God's moral mirror, his law; but they have heard so much of "All you have to do is to believe, only believe that Jesus has done it all, and you have nothing to do in the matter," that after venturing to look into the mirror they straightway go from it retaining all their defects, with the words on their lips, "Jesus has done it all." These are represented by the figure that James has marked out--the man beholding himself and going away and forgetting what manner of man he was. "Be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves." James has told what is to be done: "Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls." Faith and works are the two oars that must be used to urge the bark against the current of worldliness, pride, and vanity; and if these are not used, the boat will drift with the current downward to perdition. God help us to take care of the inward adorning; to set the heart in order as carefully as we arrange the outward apparel.
Conclusion
If Mr. Prewitt had read these statements, perhaps he would not have asked the questions or made the comments that he did.
The Herald's test
Prewitt says: (see Appendix I)
“The way the Herald understands John’s test, a false prophet can be tested by asking him ‘Did Jesus come in the fallen nature of Adam, or not?’ If the prophet says ‘yes’ then he is a true prophet.
“Yikes. Either the devil is supernaturally forbidden to say ‘yes’ in that scenario, or this is a false test. And not only must the devil be forbidden to say ‘yes’, every lying man, every schizoid, every hired ‘prophet’ must be absolutely forbidden to say ‘yes, I believe Jesus came in the flesh.’ ”
God says:
The Signs of the Times, September 3, 1894
“Through evil spirits they receive communications, and accept them as messages from their lost loved ones. Satan and his agents personate their dead friends, and thus impart to them Satanic delusions. But God has given us a rule whereby to test what is truth. The prophet says: "To the law and to the testimony; if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." "He that is of God heareth God's word." "We are of God; he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error." "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me." "If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God; and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God; and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."
Summation
Ellen White considered 1 John 4:1-3 a valid test of a true or false spirit.
Conclusion
1 John 4:1-3 is a valid test of a true or false spirit. However, it does not stand alone. Other biblical tests must be passed as well. The Herald passes these tests.
Chapter conclusion
Mr. Prewitt spends a lot of time trying to make it appear that Ernie is a false prophet, but his arguments are not supported by God’s Word. Where is a ”Thus saith the Lord”? Where is a “to the law and to the testimony”? Have we as a church forgotten how to test a prophet? Or is it simply a matter that there are no discrepancies between Ernie’s dreams and the Bible so extra-biblical tests need to be used to reject God’s messages?
Appendix J lists a number of prophets from the Bible that had something objectionable about their calling and ministry. With Mr. Prewitt’s reasoning, we would have to reject every one of them.
God sent many warnings to His church through Ellen White to repent, but these warnings have not been heeded. He now sends the same warnings through Ernie Knoll to heed the Laodicean message because Jesus is about to return. Will we accept the messages or will we, like the Jews, reject the Savior’s plea?
As Eugene Prewitt himself stated, “True prophets may appear false because of my misunderstanding of scripture.” Agreed.
In closing this chapter, the following quote appropriately sums up the position of those who dare to reject God’s messages through Ernie’s dreams.
Counsels for the Church, p. 93
Satan has ability to suggest doubts and to devise objections to the pointed testimony that God sends, and many think it a virtue, a mark of intelligence in them, to be unbelieving and to question and quibble. Those who desire to doubt will have plenty of room. God does not propose to remove all occasion for unbelief. He gives evidence, which must be carefully investigated with a humble mind and a teachable spirit, and all should decide from the weight of evidence. God gives sufficient evidence for the candid mind to believe; but he who turns from the weight of evidence because there are a few things which he cannot make plain to his finite understanding will be left in the cold, chilling atmosphere of unbelief and questioning doubts, and will make shipwreck of faith.